but the white house was extremely defensive and critical on the i.r.s. stuff. which i must say not bragging here but i said from the beginning was a phony scandal. because the i.r.s. a was doing its job and they were looking at other groups. the white house has accepted that fact. >> the white house' actions would suggest they didn't think it was a phony scandal because they immediately got rid of some of the people at the top of the i.r.s. and they put someone they trusted in charge. they announced there would be a top to bottom investigation. i think that's happening but what's happened through that investigation is the waters have been muddied a little bit. we've learned that maybe the i.r.s. wasn't just targeting tea party and conservative groups. maybe they were also targeting liberal groups, targeting groups that don't have a real clear political view one way or the other. there are some pro israel groups that got second looks. so you're starting to see hmm maybe the i.r.s. was look at a lot of people who were applying for tax-exempt status in a more subs